GÖRING: One moment. I do not find it here yet, but generally that is correct, yes.
MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: Pass on a little further. Heydrich is making suggestions and says:
“As for the isolating, I would like to make a few proposals regarding police measures, which are important also because of their psychological effect on public opinion.
“For example, anybody who is Jewish according to the Nuremberg Laws will have to wear a certain badge. That is a possibility which will facilitate many other things. I see no danger of excesses, and it will make our relationship with the foreign Jews easier.
“Göring: A uniform?
“Heydrich: A badge. In this way we could put an end to foreign Jews being molested who do not look different from ours.
“Göring: But my dear Heydrich, you will not be able to avoid the creation of ghettos on a very large scale in all the cities. They will have to be created.”
Is that what you said?
GÖRING: I said that. At that time the problem was also to get the Jews together in certain parts of the cities and in certain streets, because on the basis of the tenancy regulations there was no other possibility, and if the wearing of badges was to be made obligatory, each individual Jew could have been protected.
MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: Now, passing further in the discussion, I call your attention to this warning from Heydrich about, the measures which have been discussed: