GÖRING: In my presence the destruction of Leningrad was discussed only in the document which was mentioned yesterday, in the sense that the Finns, in case of the capture of Leningrad, would have no use for such a big city. Of the destruction of Moscow I know nothing at all.
GEN. RUDENKO: Do you remember the minutes of the meeting? This document was presented to you yesterday—the minutes of the meeting of 16 July 1941. You were present at this meeting. They state that the Führer declared . . .
GÖRING: I have just mentioned and confirmed that.
GEN. RUDENKO: Did you speak about this same document? But, besides this statement, there were also official orders.
GÖRING: Would you be good enough to put them before me, then I would be able to ascertain whether they are correct and whether they were known to me.
GEN. RUDENKO: I have no intention of submitting these documents to you. They have already been submitted to the Tribunal. I am interested only as to whether you were aware of these orders.
GÖRING: I received no order to destroy Leningrad or Moscow in the sense which you have indicated.
GEN. RUDENKO: All right. You were told only about the important happenings. But orders for the destruction of cities, and murder of millions of men, et cetera, went through so-called service channels.
GÖRING: If a town was to have been destroyed by bombing, then that order would have been given by me directly.
GEN. RUDENKO: On 8 March, here in the Tribunal, your witness Bodenschatz stated that you told him in March 1945 that many Jews were killed and that for that you will have to pay dearly. Do you remember this testimony of your witness?