MAJOR JONES: You have spoken of the battle between Frank and various other Reich commissioners and Reich ministers and the SS. I suggest to you that the battle between Frank and the SS Brigadeführer Krüger was a battle for power, a battle between personalities, and was not connected in any way with Frank’s desire to see decency and justice determine the administration of the Government General.
LAMMERS: If you mean that Frank’s statements to me do not agree with his actions, you must question Herr Frank on the point. I am not responsible for his actions. I can say only what Herr Frank told me.
MAJOR JONES: You see, you were receiving reports not only from Frank himself but from the SS, were you not?
LAMMERS: A great many reports came in to me and were passed on in the routine way, for I was but a channel for such reports. In any case, reports from the SS in most cases did not go through my office.
MAJOR JONES: You were another of these highly placed post offices on which the Nazi Reich was founded, were you?
LAMMERS: I am sorry, I did not understand that.
MAJOR JONES: Do you remember communicating with Himmler about the situation in the Government General?
LAMMERS: Yes, certainly. I know that Himmler would have liked to remove Governor General Frank from the Government General. He would rather have had some one else as Governor General.
MAJOR JONES: You submitted a report to Himmler on the strength of a discussion you had had with SS General Krüger, did you not?
LAMMERS: I cannot recall a discussion with General Krüger at the moment, unless I am given more exact information as to when it took place.