THE PRESIDENT: What year?
DR. KAUFFMANN: 1945.
[Turning to the defendant.] What is the total number of people who, due to your intervention reached their homeland?
KALTENBRUNNER: You must differentiate here between two different periods: the first period before the private meeting on 12 March and the period after that.
DR. KAUFFMANN: In my opinion you can give me a brief answer to that question. The periods of time do not matter.
KALTENBRUNNER: At least 6,000 civilian internees coming from France and Belgium and all the Eastern European States including the Balkan States were included in these talks. At least 14,000 Jewish internees were handed over to the Red Cross in the town of Gunskirchen for their immediate care. This applies to the whole camp of Theresienstadt.
DR. KAUFFMANN: And finally is it correct—please answer very briefly either in the affirmative or in the negative—that because of your intervention, a special liaison department with the Red Cross was installed at Konstanz for the purpose of facilitating and carrying out this program further.
KALTENBRUNNER: A liaison department with the Red Cross was established in Lindau and at Konstanz.
DR. KAUFFMANN: That is enough.
The Prosecution hold you responsible for a wireless message you are alleged to have sent to Fegelein in which it says: