COL. AMEN: And, in that connection, such testimony as has been given here, by Höllriegel for example, to the effect that you witnessed executions at Mauthausen, you deny? Is that correct?
KALTENBRUNNER: I was already told yesterday of the testimony of Höllriegel. I consider the statement that I ever saw a gas chamber, either in operation or at any other time, wrong and incorrect.
COL. AMEN: Very good. You had no personal knowledge of and did nothing personal about the program for the extermination of Jews; is that correct—except to oppose them?
KALTENBRUNNER: No—except that I was against it. From the moment I knew of this as facts and had convinced myself of it, I raised objections with Hitler and Himmler, and the final result was that they were stopped.
COL. AMEN: And therefore you assume no responsibility for anything done in connection with the program for the extermination of the Jews, right?
KALTENBRUNNER: Yes.
COL. AMEN: And does the same thing apply to the program for forced labor?
KALTENBRUNNER: Yes.
COL. AMEN: And the same thing applies, does it not, to the razing of the Warsaw Ghetto?
KALTENBRUNNER: Yes.