Incidentally, is that your signature on the list of those present? On Page 154.
BÜHLER: Government meeting, 16 December 1943? Yes, I signed that; that is right.
MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Tell me, do you remember who Ohlenbusch was?
BÜHLER: Ohlenbusch was the President of the Department of Propaganda.
MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: Was he in any way connected with the Police or with the administration?
BÜHLER: Ohlenbusch participated in the government meetings, at which the Police were also present as a rule.
MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: But he himself, in his own function, did he have any connection with the Police or not?
BÜHLER: As a state official and head of a government department he did, of course, have connections with the Police, official connections.
MR. COUNSELLOR SMIRNOV: But he was an official of the civilian administration of your organization?
BÜHLER: Yes, of course. As far as his official position was concerned, he was subordinate to me.