I not only believe so, I know it. I only started to deceive him in 1938. Until then, I always told him my honest opinion. I did not cheat him at all; on the contrary...
MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: What becomes, then, of your explanation that you entered his government in order to put brakes on his program? Did you tell him that?
SCHACHT: Oh, no. I should hardly have done that or he would never have admitted me into the government. But I did not deceive him about it.
MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: Did he know your purpose in joining his government was to defeat his program by sabotage?
SCHACHT: I did not say that I wanted to defeat his program. I said that I wanted to direct it into orderly channels.
MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: Well, you have said that you wanted to put brakes on it. You used that expression.
SCHACHT: Yes.
MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: Which meant slow down? Didn’t it?
SCHACHT: Yes.
MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: And he wanted to speed it up, isn’t that right?