“Question: ‘Now, did you ever express yourself in the Cabinet or elsewhere to the point that you wanted these restrictions put in, restrictions you have been talking about?’
“Answer: ‘I don’t think so; useless to do it.’
“Question: ‘You say “useless to do it?” ’
“Answer: ‘Yes.’
“Question: ‘I thought you said at one time or another that the reason you stayed in is because you thought you might have some influence on policy.’
“Answer: ‘Yes.’
“Question: ‘You didn’t consider this as important enough a matter to take a position on it?’
“Answer: ‘Not an important enough matter to risk a break.’ ”
SCHACHT: To break, that is right.
MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: Then, you were asked this: