FUNK: Yes.

MR. DODD: What did you tell us?

FUNK: I said that Schacht after addresses by Göring and Hitler made a brief speech, and that he asked those present to, so to say, go to the cashier and subscribe, that is, raise money for the election fund. He took over the collection and said that the coal industry...

MR. DODD: Who?

FUNK: He said...

MR. DODD: Who was the one who took up the collection? I don’t understand whom you mean by “he.”

FUNK: Schacht.

MR. DODD: That’s all I wanted to know about that. When did you first learn that the uprisings of November 1938 were not spontaneous?

FUNK: On the morning of 9 November, on my way from my home to the Ministry, I saw for the first time what had taken place during the night. Before that I had not had the slightest hint that such excesses and terror measures had been planned.

MR. DODD: I think you misunderstood me. I did not ask you when you first came to know about the uprisings; I asked you when you first learned that they were not spontaneous; when you first learned that they were instigated and planned by somebody else.