COL. PHILLIMORE: Yes. You knew at the time you spoke to Heisig that he was going to be called as a witness, did you not?
WAGNER: That could be assumed from his presence here at Nuremberg.
COL. PHILLIMORE: And you knew you were going to be called as a witness, did you not?
WAGNER: Yes.
COL. PHILLIMORE: Are you telling the Tribunal that you did not tell the defense lawyers about this conversation until quite recently?
WAGNER: I did not understand the sense of your question.
COL. PHILLIMORE: Are you telling the Tribunal that you did not report this conversation with Heisig to the defense lawyers until quite recently?
WAGNER: I think it was in February or March when I told the Defense Counsel about this conversation.
COL. PHILLIMORE: Now I just want to put the dates to you. The U-boat Commander Eck was sentenced to death on 20 October. Do you know that?
WAGNER: I did not know the date.