WAGNER: No, not at all. I have already said the Grossadmiral only participated at the situation conference, that is, the military situation conference with the Führer and beyond that one or even two discussions with the Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force.
COL. PHILLIMORE: And with General Jodl or Field Marshal Keitel, somebody from the Foreign Office, and so on?
WAGNER: Otherwise the Grossadmiral had no discussions of any sort, as can be seen from the document, for on 28 August at 1600 hours he returned by air. The other discussions were discussions of the Chief of Staff of the SKL, the...
COL. PHILLIMORE: But I was putting it to you that this was a typical visit. If Admiral Dönitz had not left, he would have had these other conversations and not Admiral Meisel, is that not right?
WAGNER: No, not at all. The Chief of Staff of the SKL very rarely had the opportunity of coming to headquarters; and according to the record here, he obviously used his opportunity to contact a few of the leading...
COL. PHILLIMORE: I do not want to waste time with it. I suggest to you that when Admiral Dönitz went there he normally saw many other ministers and conversed with them on any business affecting the Navy.
WAGNER: Naturally, the Admiral discussed all questions affecting the Navy with those who were concerned with them.
COL. PHILLIMORE: Now, I want to ask you one or two questions on the minutes with regard to the Geneva Convention—that is C-158, GB-209, Page 69 of the English Prosecution’s document book, or Page 102 of the German. Will you look at Page 102.
Now you, as you told us yesterday, initialed those minutes, did you not; and a copy was marked to you, is that not right?
WAGNER: Yes, I signed these minutes.