WAGNER: No, that could have meant a lot of things.
COL. PHILLIMORE: What did you think it meant?
WAGNER: It could have meant that the people were interrogated for the counterintelligence; it could have meant that they were to be kept imprisoned under more severe conditions, and finally it could have meant that they might be shot.
COL. PHILLIMORE: But you had no doubt that it meant that they might be shot, had you?
WAGNER: The possibility that they might be shot undoubtedly existed.
COL. PHILLIMORE: Yes, and did that occur to you when you signed the order sending it on to commanders?
WAGNER: I would like to refer to Paragraph 1 of this order, where it...
COL. PHILLIMORE: Do you mind answering the question? Did it occur to you that they might be shot when you signed the order sending it on to commanders?
WAGNER: Yes, the possibility was clear to me.
DR. SIEMERS: Mr. President, the witness was asked whether he approved of this order. I do not think that Colonel Phillimore can cut off the witness’ answer by saying that he may not refer to Paragraph 1 of the order. I believe that Paragraph 1 of the order is of decisive importance for this witness. Mr. President, the witness Admiral Wagner...