WAGNER: Yes.
DR. SIEMERS: Will you, please, turn to the fourth page. First, a question: Is it possible that this document was known to the Naval Operations Staff? Does the document indicate that it was sent to the Naval Operations Staff?
WAGNER: These are informal conference notes of the OKW which were apparently not sent to the Naval Operations Staff.
DR. SIEMERS: If I understand it correctly then, this is a document of the Intelligence Service of the OKW, is it not?
WAGNER: Yes. That is correct.
DR. SIEMERS: Under Figure 2 it says “attempted attack on the battleship Tirpitz.” The first part was read by Colonel Phillimore:
“Three Englishmen and two Norwegians were held up at the Swedish frontier.”
Can one, on the strength of this, say that they were presumably apprehended by the Police and not by the Wehrmacht?
WAGNER: Presumably, yes. Certainly not by the Navy; but probably by the Police, who controlled the frontiers, so far as I know.
DR. SIEMERS: Do you not think, Admiral, that this is not only probable but certain if you think back to the affidavit of 14 November 1945 by Flesch, the commander of the Security Police, who brought Evans from the frontier to Oslo?