PUHL: Practically all the shares were in the hands of the Reichsbank. The Gold Discount Bank had a Board of Directors always headed by the President of the Reichsbank; it also had a deputy chairman who was the Second Vice President of the Reichsbank, and the Board of Directors itself included a number of members of the Directorate of the Reichsbank, and also the State Secretaries of the Ministry of Economics and of the Ministry of Finance.
THE PRESIDENT: It is not interesting to us to know who the exact directors of the Gold Discount Bank were.
DR. SAUTER: Witness, I wanted, in fact, to interrupt you earlier, and tell you that what you have just related is without significance for the Trial. To me and to the Tribunal it is only of interest to hear whether the Defendant Funk, as far as you definitely remember, had knowledge of these matters, of the purpose of this credit and whether he knew that in these factories people from the concentration camps were employed? Do you, or do you not know?
PUHL: I might assume that, but I cannot know it. At any rate, it was known that the credit was destined for these factories.
DR. SAUTER: Witness, I cannot be satisfied with that answer because the SS, as you have probably heard in the meantime, directed various undertakings in which no concentration camp inmates were employed. To my knowledge, for example, the porcelain factory at Allach did not apparently employ concentration camp inmates. Then for example, the entire personnel at the spas...
MR. DODD: I object to testimony by counsel. He is practically giving the answer to this witness before he asks the question.
DR. SAUTER: Do you know whether the SS had undertakings in which no concentration camp inmates were employed?
PUHL: I did not, of course, know every individual business run by the SS, nor could I know in each case whether prisoners were or were not employed.
DR. SAUTER: Was the Defendant Funk present at all during the meeting at which this credit was discussed?
PUHL: No, he was not present; the records of the proceedings were submitted; we always adopted that procedure.