VOCKE: That, at any rate, was Von Lumm’s view. He took a very serious view, which Schacht, not being a civil servant, could not quite appreciate.
MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: And Von Lumm called a meeting and reproached Schacht?
VOCKE: Yes.
MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: Schacht then gave an answer to Von Lumm which Von Lumm considered was not sincere, but was merely a lie?
VOCKE: Yes. That was Von Lumm’s point of view.
MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: Now, that is what Von Lumm told you about?
VOCKE: That was in the written report which I have read.
MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: Now, when you came to talk to Schacht about it and about his answer to Von Lumm, Schacht told you that it was perhaps not quite an open answer, but not a lie?
VOCKE: Yes.
MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: However, having heard both sides of it, you along with all of the other directors of the Reichsbank were opposed to Schacht’s appointment as President, as you have testified.