VON SCHIRACH: I do not remember that. I would have to see the song.
MR. DODD: Well, I can show it to you, but perhaps if you recall it we can save a little time. Don’t you remember that the second stanza says, “For many years the people were enslaved and misguided, traitors and Jews had the upper hand?” Do you remember those words in that song? “People to Arms” is the next one.
VON SCHIRACH: Yes, but I am not sure if that was published in a youth songbook.
MR. DODD: I can assure you that it was; and if you would like to see it, we have it here.
VON SCHIRACH: It is a very well-known SA song, which was sung by the young people, and was therefore included in the youth songbook.
MR. DODD: All right, that is all I wanted to find out. I don’t care where it originated. It is the kind of song you had in your songbook for young people.
VON SCHIRACH: I should like to say one more thing. The songbook which I have here was published in 1933.
MR. DODD: Yes?
VON SCHIRACH: I do not believe that the youth organization which I built up can be judged from the year 1933 only.
MR. DODD: I don’t suggest that either, but we found it in 1945.