LAUTERBACHER: No, I never had any SS assignments.

MR. DODD: Did you have any connection with the Reichsführer SS from January 1944 on?

LAUTERBACHER: In October 1944 the Reichsführer SS had gone in his special train to Bad Pyrmont, on the occasion of a meeting of West German Gauleiter and Higher SS and Police Leaders. I had orders to be present at that function; and in the course of the meeting I had a talk with him.

MR. DODD: That is not what I asked; but I will pass it. Did you become an SA Obergruppenführer in 1944, as well as SS Obergruppenführer?

LAUTERBACHER: I became an SA Obergruppenführer, I think, in 1944 or 1943.

MR. DODD: You were also a member of the Reichstag in 1936, were you not?

LAUTERBACHER: Yes.

MR. DODD: And a member of the Party, I guess you said, since 1927; is that right?

LAUTERBACHER: Since 1927.

MR. DODD: And a member of the Hitler Youth, or NSDAP, since 1923?