DR. SERVATIUS: What was the general attitude toward the question of foreign workers before you took office? What did you find when you came?

SAUCKEL: There was a controversy when I took up my office. There were about two million foreign workers in Germany from neutral and allied states and occupied territories of the East and the West. They had been brought to the Reich without order or system. Many industrial concerns avoided contacting the labor authorities or found them troublesome and bureaucratic. The conflict of interests, as I said before, was very great. The Police point of view was most predominating, I think.

DR. SERVATIUS: And propaganda? What was the propaganda with regard to Eastern Workers, for example?

SAUCKEL: Propaganda was adapted to the war in the East. I may point out now—you interrupted me before when I was speaking of the order given me by the Führer—that I expressly asked the Führer not to let workers working in Germany be treated as enemies any longer, and I tried to influence propaganda to that effect.

DR. SERVATIUS: What else did you do with regard to the situation which confronted you?

SAUCKEL: I finally received approval from the Führer for my second program. That program has been submitted here as a document. I must and will bear responsibility for that program.

DR. SERVATIUS: It has already been submitted as Document 016-PS. It is the Program for the Allocation of Labor of 20 April 1942, Exhibit USA-168.

In this program you made fundamental statements. I will hand it to you and I ask you to comment on the general questions only, not on the individual points.

There is a paragraph added to the last part, “Prisoners of War and Foreign Workers.” Have you found the paragraph?

SAUCKEL: Yes.