SAUCKEL: The red ticket system was applied when there was a demand for workers, mostly specialized or skilled workers, which had to take priority over all other demands because the work was necessary.
M. HERZOG: The system of the red ticket was applied to the armament industry, was it not?
SAUCKEL: The red ticket system was applied to the armament industry...
M. HERZOG: And it was established by agreement between the Defendant Speer and yourself?
SAUCKEL: That was a system which, in my opinion, was always intended to meet emergencies; there were variations, such as lists or red tickets. Originally, there were only lists, and the red ticket was added by decree.
M. HERZOG: You therefore admit that by these various systems you share with the Defendant Speer the responsibility of having compelled workers to work in German factories for the needs of the war which Germany was fighting against their own native lands?
SAUCKEL: I should like to emphasize particularly that this red ticket system did not apply only to foreign workers; it applied especially to German workers too—German skilled workers.
M. HERZOG: But it was applied also to foreign workers?
SAUCKEL: It applied to foreign workers as well, if they were specialists and declared their willingness.
M. HERZOG: Will you tell the Tribunal what is meant by the “blocking” of factories?