DR. EXNER: Now we shall turn to a different point. Which leaders of the Party did you get to know from the time of the seizure of power until the outbreak of the war?
JODL: Not mentioning the soldiers, Reich Minister Frick alone. I was with him twice when the questions of Reich reform were to be discussed.
DR. EXNER: And which of the defendants here present did you know before 1939, or before the beginning of the war?
JODL: Of the defendants here, I knew only the Reich Marshal, Grossadmiral Raeder, Field Marshal Keitel, and Minister Frick; no one else.
DR. EXNER: In the meantime, had you concerned yourself at all with the literature of National Socialism?
JODL: No.
DR. EXNER: Did you participate in Reich Party rallies?
JODL: In the year 1937, in my official capacity, I participated the last 3 days in Nuremberg, when the Labor Service, the SA, and the Wehrmacht were reviewed.
DR. EXNER: Did you participate in the commemorations at Munich, that is, every year on 9 November?
JODL: No. I really did not belong there.