MR. ROBERTS: I will leave that. I ask only two questions now on Sagan, Stalag Luft III.
You said yesterday that after the incident of the Sagan shooting, you thought Hitler was no longer “humane.” Did you say that?
JODL: I said yesterday, I had the impression then that he was disavowing all humane conceptions of right.
MR. ROBERTS: Had you thought that he was humane up to March of 1944?
JODL: Before this time, I personally knew of no action of his which could not be justified legally, at least under international law. All his previous orders, so far as I knew, could still be justified in some way. They were reprisals. But this act was not a reprisal.
MR. ROBERTS: This was—would you agree with me—the word is not too strong—that this was sheer murder of these 50 airmen?
JODL: I completely agree with you: I consider it sheer murder.
MR. ROBERTS: How could you honorable generals go on serving a murderer with unabated loyalty?
JODL: I did not serve with unabated loyalty after this event, but I did everything in my power to avoid further injustice.
MR. ROBERTS: Now I come to something else, the question of destruction in Norway. The document is 754-PS. It has not yet been exhibited. I offer it as GB-490. This document is signed by you, is it not?