DR. JAHRREISS: Just a moment, Witness. You said that you had not been present at the entire discussion.
Mr. President, we have an interrogatory which we want to submit to the Tribunal. It is in our document book, Volume II, Page 178, and is the testimony of General of the Air Force, Koller. This testimony under Number 5, which is on Page 180 of the document book, contains all the details worth preserving of this extremely important conference in Berlin. Only part of this conversation took place in the Führer’s room. Another part took place in the anterooms—as, for instance, that with Kaltenbrunner—while the conversation with Göring was carried on by telephone. In order to save time and to avoid splitting up the matter, I should like to have the Tribunal’s permission to present it as a whole, even though the witness heard only a part.
With regard to Jodl, the last sentence says, as a whole—I believe, Mr. President, we can save time if I may present it now.
First of all, I must read the first question put to General Koller, which is to be found on Page 179. Here the witness was asked:
“How long have you been Chief of the General Staff of the Air Force?” The answer is on the next page and is:
“From 1 September 1943 to 3 September 1944 I was Chief of the Air Force Operations Staff; from 23 November 1944, Chief of the General Staff of the Air Force.”
Question 5—and that is the question which concerns us—is on Page 179:
“Do you recall that about March 1945, in the bunker of the Reich Chancellery, the Führer censured you and the Air Force because such an order was not given?”
Answer, Page 180:
“Yes, I remember exactly. A notice taken from the Allied press reporter survey between the beginning and the middle of March 1945 was laid before the Führer by Bormann during the situation discussion. In brief it read somewhat to this effect: