Q. Was there a national committee to take care of the interests of the objectors?

A. Yes. As a general rule the conscientious objectors were supervised by a civilian religious group, such as the Quakers or the Mennonites.

Q. Was the conscientious objector under any duty to volunteer for medical experiments?

A. None whatsoever.

Q. However, he was under obligation to work in various libraries or forest fire prevention, etc., if requested to by the committee?

A. Yes. It was necessary for him to render some sort of public service.

Q. Then you determined that you needed experimental subjects. How did it happen that you decided that conscientious objectors might be made available to you?

A. As I recall, the National Research Council, in view of the fact that the medical students and dental students were mustered into the Army and could no longer serve as subjects in experiments in universities and medical school laboratories, took the matter up with the Director of the Civilian Public Service, who then decided that the conscientious objectors might be allowed to volunteer for such work in connection with medical schools and research institutes.

Q. And by that token you were permitted to approach conscientious objectors to ask them whether or not they would volunteer for medical experiments?

A. I or the investigator did not approach the conscientious objectors directly. We requested that a certain number of volunteers be allowed or sent to us through the Director of the Civilian Public Service Agency.