Q. You then, despite the order, would not carry out the order, and would prefer to be executed as a martyr?
A. That is correct, and I know there are thousands of people in the United States who would have to do likewise.
Q. And do you not also believe that in thousands of cities the population would kill the doctor who found himself in that position?
A. I do not believe so because they would not know. How would they know whether the doctor had a drug that would or would not relieve? The doctor would not know himself, because he would have to experiment first.
Q. Witness, I put a hypothetical case to you. If we are to turn to reality other questions would arise. I simply want to hear now your general attitude to this problem. You are then of the opinion that a doctor should not carry out the order. Are you also of the opinion that the politician should not give such an order?
A. Yes. I believe he should not give such an order.
Q. Is this not a purely political decision which must be left at the discretion of the political leader?
A. Not necessarily. He should seek the best advice that he can obtain.
Q. If he is informed that this one experiment on this one prisoner would save the whole city, he may give the order despite the fact that the doctor does not wish to carry it out, is that what you think?
A. He could then give the order, but if the doctor still believed that it was contrary to his moral responsibilities, then the doctor should not carry out the order.