Pleiger: In our conferences it must always be taken as a basis that the Reichsbahn, with regard to the allocation of cars, is at least in the same position as they were last year.

(Speer: That’s pretty bad.)

—No, it allocated over 80,000 cars in December.


Speer: Can you give me by name any smelters or other people which could be taken out?

(Rohland: Yes.)

This would still be another 50 or 100, I guess.

Rohland: I figure about 40 men per Martin furnace. If we take away 20 or 15—let’s say 20—as trained Martin furnace smelters, we would have 300 men. 300 smelters could help us a lot. But when will they come?

Speer: Then we could deceive the French about the industry in such a way, as if we would release among the prisoners of war the rollers and smelters—they have—if they give us their names.

Rohland: We opened our own office in Paris. In other words, you mean the French should report the smelters who are prisoners of war in Germany?