Q. And the compound was under the jurisdiction of the SS who had jurisdiction over * * *.
A. (Interrupting) Yes. That was under the jurisdiction of the SS.
Q. And they had jurisdiction over all of the concentration camps?
A. I didn’t know that but all I know is that they came from Oranienburg and that the regulations concerning that compound came from Oranienburg.
Q. You knew that Himmler was head of the SS?
A. I heard about that in 1945.
Q. In 1945 you found out that Himmler was the Reich Leader SS?
A. Yes.
Q. I have no more questions.
Judge Musmanno: Witness, you mean you did not know, before 1945, of the power Himmler had in the SS?