"Yes, I do not doubt that, for a moment. But do you believe that Jesus died for you?"
"Why, yes, certainly: how could I do otherwise; He died for us all."
"That is not the point. I mean, do you believe that He died; and that you have a personal interest in His death?"
She hesitated, and then looking at me said, "Do you mean objectively, or subjectively?"
"May I ask what I am to understand by these words?"
"Dr. — taught me that, 'Christ died.' is objective, and that 'Christ died for me.' is subjective."
"Very good indeed," I answered, "I like that very much; it is quite true. But it is one thing to know about subjective faith, and quite another thing to have it. Now I will come back to my question. Do you believe that Christ died for you?"
"You evidently mean something that I do not understand," she said, in a perplexed manner. Then looking at the crucifix on her table, I said, "What does that remind you of?"
"Oh, I pray before that every day, and ask the Lord to take my sins away."
"Then you do not think your sins are forgiven yet. How can you ask for forgiveness, and have it at the same time?"