A. As far as I saw, they were at that time.
Q. Men in actual employment at that time?
A. Yes.
Q. Were there any men there at that time who had previously been discharged?
A. None that I know of.
Q. What was the next incident that occurred that came under your observation?
A. The next thing, I went to Twenty-eighth street with Mr. Watt, and tried to get engine seven hundred and eighty-five out—Conductor S. K. Moore.
Q. What time was that?
A. Pretty close to twelve o'clock. I told him to bring his engine out, and he told me that they would not allow him to turn the switch.
Q. Who do you mean by "they?"