Senator Smith: How far out?
Mr. Woolner: It was about nine feet out.
Senator Smith: Nine feet away from the side of A Deck?
Senator Smith: You saw a collapsible boat being lowered?
Mr. Woolner: Being lowered; yes.
Senator Smith: Was it filled with people?
Mr. Woolner: It was full up to the bow, and I said to Steffanson, “There is nobody in the bows. Let us make a jump for it. You go first.” And he jumped out and tumbled in head over heels into the boat, and I jumped too and hit the gunwale with my chest, which had on the life-preserver, of course, and I sort of tumbled off the gunwale and caught the gunwale with my fingers and slipped off backwards.
Senator Smith: Into the water?
Mr. Woolner: As my legs dropped down I felt that they were in the sea.