The question about the alleadged adulterie of William Guarsone pursued by a minister in the Presbiterie of Penpont, remitted to the Committie for the Billes.
The Supplication of Mr George Hannay, sometyme minister at Torphichen, but suspended for the present by a Commission, for restauration of his place; remitted to the consideration of Mʳ Alexʳ Hendersone, Andro Ramsay, David Lindsey, John Adamsone, Andro Abercrombie, Andro Mill, Andro Wood, Laird of Dundas.
The Toune of Edinburgh, and the Toune and Colledge of Sᵗ Andrewes having presented supplications for the transportation of Mr Samuel Rutherford from Anwith to each of them, after many contestations and altercations, and the reading of the reasons of Aberdeene and Edinburgh, and answers to each of them from other, and the reading of Mr Samuells owne reasons for not transportation at all from Anwith, the said Mr Samuell, by the farr greatest of the voices of the Assembly was ordained to goe to Sᵗ Andrewes to serve in the ministerie, and make such helpes in the Colledge as God shall affoord him abilitie for.
Sessio 12.—To meit at 9 a clock [Aug. 22.]
After prayer, the Moderatour said—We trust that the Assemblie hath a right construction of the lazarlie proceedings of the Assemblie. The Lord was graceous unto ws this last weeke in bringing our privat businesses unto a publict and unanimous conclusion. This weeke, also, hath been spent in prepairing matters for your greater satisfaction. That our proceedings may offend none, but give contentment to all in reasone, we have to doe now with the Reportes; and, becaus the particular cases of them who were processed before the severall Commissions are many, we must put difference betweene the faults and repentance of men, that none may in justice complaine, but that he is dealt justlie and moderatlie withall.
The Commissioner said—I desire that everie thing be rightlie understood, that there be no mistake betwixt his Majestie, or me his servant, and this Assemblie concerning these deposed ministers. I have alreadie spocken my mynd in it, and in no other termes but that the state of your processes be so taken to this Assemblies consideration, that if they be found worthie of deposition, let them be deposed. But for such of them that are only guiltie of the errour of the tyme, whereof our Master hes beene guiltie (this is an ill wealed word, but I know it is so taken) as their refusing to subscryve to the constitutions of that controverted Assembly at Glasgow, which they have done by his Majesties speciall commandment, and according to the light of their consciences, which they thought right then, I shall only represent to the Assemblie whither or not they thinke our Master may expect from us that such ministers who for life and doctrine shall be found fitt to exercise the calling of the ministrie upon their submitting of themselves to this Assembly, to the determinations of this Kirk, should not be restored to their places? I speake it to this end; and I beseeche yow take it right, that since our Master goes so farr on our way with us in removing all the occasions of our feares, and hath appoynted to this Assembly to try whither these ministers deserves such a sentence now if they shall submitt themselves to this Assembly? I only represent to your consideration, whither in some things we ought to doe that that may satisfie our Master?
The Moderatour answered—We intend equitie and moderation, that none shall have just cause to complaine. In the meantyme, becaus it is incumbent to this Assembly to cleare their mynds towards his Majestie, I will speak a little. I will not admitt to say so much as your Grace hath said. We will not let that much imputation to goe from us so high as to speake of guiltinesse in his Majestie, who hes not bein brought up heir. We will lay the guiltinesse upon the ministers, who should have knowne the constitutions of the Kirk of Scotland; and, therefore we heare plead that his Majesties honour may be cleared, and they seene to be in the calk. This I speake not, but this Assembly may shew all moderation and favour to those whom his Majestie requires, in alse farr as we wrong not trueth, and the libertie and constitutions of the Kirk.
The Commissioner answered—I believe the most of these men that declyned the last Assembly, they did so upon ane of two grounds—either becaus they could not thinke lay Elders to be lawfull members of the Assembly, or becaus their judgment went not along with us anent Episcopacie, in both which our Masters judgment was ane and the same with them. Yet now, upon their acknowledgment of their errours in these, and submitting themselves to this Assembly, I only remitt it to your consideration if yow can thinke yow should deale so strictlie with our Master, who hes condiscended so farr to our desires, that he may not expect something may be done in this, since it may be done without prejudice to the Constitutions of the Kirk whereof yow pretend yow are so tender. Therefore I desire this Assemblie to consider wiselie of it, and not to be led away with your aune particulars—their spleene at these men or their affection to others whom they would have in their roume.
The Moderatour said—It is our purpose to put a difference betwixt those who have only done according to their light in these two things your Grace mentions, and betwixt those whose life and doctrine have beine scandalous, and to shew all the moderation to that sort that your Grace desires.
The Commissioner said—I believe some of the members of this Assembly, who were appoynted yesternight to speake with me, dealt so ingenuouslie with me as to say, that although there were many things alleadged against these ministers, yet could they not be legallie tryed, except with these things that I have alleadged; for though they were scandalous in some thinges, yet could there be no formall proces led against them. Now it is a dangerous position, that a man shall be condemned for suspicions, becaus his air and the way of his carriage agries not with others. Let us looke to it; for though in their judgement they would not subscryve the Covenant nor allow lay elders, yet to sentence them for that, I thinke it a dangerous rule.