“Mr. Marchand. What competition?
“Mr. Leeds. I think it amounts to $25 a car.
“Mr. Marchand. $25 a car?
“Mr. Leeds. Yes, sir.
“Mr. Marchand. By whom?
“Mr. Leeds. We had only one competition.
“Mr. Marchand. Who was your competitor?
“Mr. Leeds. The Armour Car-Line.
“Mr. Marchand. And it was necessary to give $25 or more in order to secure the traffic—was that your idea?
“Mr. Leeds. I believed so.