“Commissioner Clements. Uniformly $25 a car?
“Mr. Leeds. I think there would be some exception, as to business farther east than Chicago.
“Commissioner Clements. Would it be more than that?
“Mr. Leeds. Yes, sir.
“Commissioner Clements. What on Eastern business?
“Mr. Leeds. An additional $10.
“Commissioner Clements. $35?
“Mr. Leeds. Yes, sir.
“Commissioner Clements. You pay $25 back to Chicago and points west of Chicago?
“Mr. Leeds. Yes, sir.