“Commissioner Clements. And $35 to points east of Chicago?

“Mr. Leeds. That is what it would amount to.

“Commissioner Prouty. Do you agree to do that before the shipment is made, or afterwards?

“Mr. Leeds. Before.

“Commissioner Prouty. Are your agents authorized to make that discount?

“Mr. Leeds. No; they are not.

“Commissioner Prouty. Where is the agreement made, and with whom?

“Mr. Leeds. Myself.

“Commissioner Prouty. Do your agents there know anything about it?

“Mr. Leeds. I do not think they know what it is. They may know that something of that kind is going on, but not what it amounts to.