iste.
[2356.] iste points out something near to, belonging to, or imputed to the person addressed: as,
cum istā sīs auctōritāte, nōn dēbēs adripere maledictum ex triviō, Mur. 13, carrying the influence that you do, you ought not to take to street-corner abuse. multae istārum arborum meā manū sunt satae, CM. 59, many of the trees you see there were planted by my own hand. salem istum quō caret vestra nātiō, inrīdendīs nōbīs nōlītōte cōnsūmere, ND. 2, 74, do not waste in ridiculing us that wit which your fraternity sadly needs. Often with tuus or vester: as, īsdem hīc sapiēns dē quō loquor oculīs quibus iste vester intuēbitur, Ac. 2, 105, the sage of whom I speak will look with the same eyes as the sage you boast of.
[2357.] From its use in addressing opponents or in talking at them, iste is common in contemptuous phrases: as,
tū istīs faucibus, istīs lateribus, istā gladiātōriā tōtīus corporis firmitāte, Ph. 2, 63, you with that gullet of yours, those swollen flanks, that prizefighter’s bulky make-up. nōn erit ista amīcitia, sed mercātūra quaedam, ND. 1, 122, such a thing will not be a friendship, but a sort of traffic.
ille.
[2358.] ille points to what is remote in place, time, or thought: as,
ergō illī intellegunt quid Epicūrus dīcat, ego nōn intellegō? Fin. 2, 13, do those gentlemen then understand what Epicurus means and I not? populus Rōmānus nihil aequē atque illam veterem iūdiciōrum vim gravitātemque requīrit, Caecil. 8, the Roman people miss nothing so much as the ancient vigour and firmness attaching to public trials. hīs autem dē rēbus sōl mē ille admonuit ut brevior essem, DO. 3, 209, but on these topics yonder sun has warned me to be pretty brief. For other examples, see [2352-2355].
[2359.] ille is used to point out a celebrity, often one of the past. So, particularly without a proper name, in allusive style, referring to what is famed in story.
([a.]) hīc est ille Dēmosthenēs, TD. 5, 103, this is the famous Demosthenes. Athēniēnsis ille Themistoclēs, DO. 2, 299, Themistocles the great, of Athens. illud Solōnis, CM. 50, Solon’s memorable words. Mēdēa illa, IP. 22, Medea famed in story. (b.) vīribus ille cōnfīsus periīt, J. 10, 10, the man in the story lost his life through confidence in his strength. illae rēgiae lacrimae, Plin. Ep. 3, 7, 13, the monarch’s historic tears, of Xerxes.