Mr. Stenhouse. Yes.

Mr. Tavenner. During your assignment in China were you required to confer with known members of the Communist Party?

Mr. Stenhouse. No.

Mr. Tavenner. Or Communists?

Mr. Stenhouse. Well, I want to be frank here, but, first of all, I would like you to tell me in the context of Chinese people what the definition of a Communist is.

Mr. Tavenner. Living in China as long as you did, you probably should understand that.

Mr. Stenhouse. That is very difficult. The longer you live in China the harder it is to do it.

Mr. Velde. Were you conferring with the economic leaders in China when you were on this assignment with the United Nations?

Mr. Stenhouse. Yes.

Mr. Velde. Was China under Communist domination at that time?