At that time did you know that a person by the name of Carl Marzani, an official of that corporation, was under sentence of the United States district court after having been convicted for concealing his Communist Party affiliations while an employee of the Federal Government?
Mr. O’Connell. No; I didn’t know that. In fact, I didn’t know Presentation, Inc., and didn’t know anybody who was identified with it.
Mr. Tavenner. Mr. O’Connell, is it not a fact that during the period that the Committee To Defeat the Mundt Bill used the offices of the National Lawyers Guild, it also used the National Lawyers Guild telephone, bearing number District 3205, to which both telegrams and telephone tolls were charged to the National Lawyers Guild?
Mr. O’Connell. Yes; but with an understanding, as I remember, that whatever expenditure was made on the telephone or telegraph was to be paid by the National Committee To Defeat the Mundt Bill.
Mr. Tavenner. Did you reimburse the National Lawyers Guild in full?
Mr. O’Connell. I really don’t know. I went home directly after the adjournment of Congress in September of 1950 and what disposition was made after I left of those bills and so on by Mr. Waybur, I don’t know.
Mr. Tavenner. You say you don’t know?
Mr. O’Connell. I don’t know. As I said, my principal work was always up here on the Hill. I usually came up in the mornings about 10 o’clock or 9:30 or so and was up here until either adjournment of Congress or later, and so on, each day that I was here.
Mr. Tavenner. Did Lillian Clott perform any services for the National Lawyers Guild while you occupied its offices as chairman for the committee to defeat the Mundt bill?
Mr. O’Connell. I can’t recall. I know Lillian Clott and all that, but I can’t recall whether she did or not.