Mr. Tavenner. Any person who has held the two positions that you have as secretary of two very active organizations would certainly have had his finger on the pulse of general activities in the community. You certainly knew, did you not, that the Communist Party was operating the Washington Pension Union?
Mr. O’Connell. No; I certainly did not know that. I didn’t know that.
Mr. Tavenner. You believed it, didn’t you?
Mr. O’Connell. No; I didn’t believe it. There are a lot of wonderful old people in that organization and Dr. Fisher——
Mr. Tavenner. I am talking about the leadership.
Mr. O’Connell. Who is the president of it——
Mr. Tavenner. I have told you Mrs. Hartle said there were comparatively few.
Mr. O’Connell. Mrs. Hartle, on her own acknowledgment was a functionary of the Communist Party, was she not?
Mr. Tavenner. Yes.
Mr. O’Connell. She certainly would know whether they were working or not, but I was not a functionary of the Communist Party and I wouldn’t know what the Communist Party was doing as far as the Pension Union was concerned.