Mr Hamilton apprehended inconveniency from fixing the wages. He was strenuous agst making the National Council dependent on the Legislative rewards of the States. Those who pay are the masters of those who are paid. Payment by the States would be unequal as the distant States would have to pay for the same term of attendance and more days in travelling to & from the seat of the Govt. He expatiated emphatically on the difference between the feelings & views of the people—& the Governments of the States arising from the personal interest & official inducements which must render the latter unfriendly to the Genl Govt.
Mr Wilson moved that the Salaries of the 1st branch "be ascertained by the National Legislature," and be paid out of the Natl Treasury.
Mr Madison, thought the members of the Legisl too much interested to ascertain their own compensation. It wd be indecent to put their hands into the public purse for the sake of their own pockets.
On this question Mass. no. Cont no. N. Y. divd N. J. ay. Pa ay. Del. no. Md no. Va no. N. C. no. S. C. no. Geo. divd.
On the question for striking out "Natl Treasury" as moved by Mr Elseworth.
Mr Hamilton renewed his opposition to it. He pressed the distinction between the State Govts & the people. The former wd be the rivals of the Genl Govt. The State legislatures ought not therefore to be the paymasters of the latter.
Mr Elseworth. If we are jealous of the State Govts they will be so of us. If on going home I tell them we gave the Gen: Govt such powers because we cd not trust you. Will they adopt it, and witht yr approbation it is a nullity.[99]
[ [99] According to Yates, Wilson followed Ellsworth:
"Mr. Wilson. I am not for submitting the national government to the approbation of the state legislatures. I know that they and the state officers will oppose it. I am for carrying it to the people of each state."—Yates, Secret Proceedings, etc., 153.
Massts ay. Cont ay. N. Y. divd. N. J. no. Pena no. Del. no. Md no. Va no. N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. divd[100]