Mr Carrol. The Senate was to represent & manage the affairs of the whole, and not to be the advocates of State interests. They ought then not to be dependent on nor paid by the States.

On the question for paying the Members of the Legislature out of the Natl Treasury,

N. H. ay. Mass. no. Ct ay. N. J. ay. Pa ay. Del. ay. Md ay. Va ay. N. C. ay. S. C. no. Geo. ay.

Mr Elseworth moved that the pay be fixed at 5 dollrs or the present value thereof per day during their attendance & for every thirty miles in travelling to & from Congress.

Mr Strong preferred 4 dollars, leaving the Sts. at liberty to make additions.

On question for fixing the pay at 5 dollars.

N. H. no. Mass. no. Ct ay. N. J. no. Pa no. Del. no. Md no. Va ay. N. C. no. S. C. no. Geo. no.

Mr Dickenson proposed that the wages of the members of both houses sd be required to be the same.

Mr Broome seconded him.

Mr Ghorum. this would be unreasonable. The Senate will be detained longer from home, will be obliged to remove their families, and in time of war perhaps to sit constantly. Their allowance should certainly be higher. The members of the Senates in the States are allowed more, than those of the other house.