Mrs. Ford. Yes; that is right, and Lydia was rather mad about the whole thing and she said she is not going to help them any more if they are acting that way.
The baby wasn't helped at the hospital. I think the hospital didn't want to take the child because the father couldn't pay, that is what I got, the father couldn't pay for it.
Mr. Liebeler. Did you ever see Marina say anything adverse to Oswald in his presence, did she run him down or make fun of him in public so far as you know?
Mrs. Ford. As far as I know, I don't, except the first time, the one time, I would think when she said, "What a liar," in front of him.
Mr. Liebeler. You don't know of any other instance when she would have done that?
Mrs. Ford. I don't know of any other instance.
Mr. Liebeler. Do you know whether she ever spoke of his political views before other people or make fun of him?
Mrs. Ford. No; I don't remember except lately I have been talking to her about that and she said she thought of him being young, and she thought she hoped it would pass with years, that he would mature, this is what she was telling me.
Mr. Liebeler. Did she tell you whether or not she discussed politics with him herself? Did she argue with him about anything?
Mrs. Ford. She said she was arguing with him about that. Certainly, in fact, he called her, she was typical American girl, that she is not interested at all in politics, except in the material things that he wasn't interested in. She said she wanted a house and a family and he said, "All the American girls think that way" and he thought he married a different sort of a girl, a Russian girl.