Mr. Liebeler. Was it the American Civil Liberties Union?
Mrs. Ford. That is right, it was the American Civil Liberties Union and I talked to my husband about that and he tried to find out; I told him to find out all he can if it had anything to do with a Communist front or something and if it was I didn't want to do anything about it, to be connected with it, and he couldn't find anything out, but at the same time I told him that I did not want to go with them but I didn't mind translating. So I did translate and they wanted to know if Marina was held incommunicado, and she answered. Mrs. Paine brought me that letter to translate from English to Russian, and the man in charge, I don't know his name, I have forgotten his name, you mentioned it yesterday, if you say it I will remember it.
Mr. Liebeler. Let's come to that in a moment, let's develop the story first.
How did the question of the American Civil Liberties first come up, did Mrs. Paine bring it up?
Mrs. Ford. Yes; that is right, because she tried to write letters to Marina and she wouldn't answer and she thought she was held in sort of a protective custody and couldn't see anybody. That is what she felt, and she was rather imprisoned is what she thought.
Mr. Liebeler. So Mrs. Paine came to you with a letter that was written in English, is that correct?
Mrs. Ford. That is right.
Mr. Liebeler. And she asked you to translate into Russian?
Mrs. Ford. That is right.
Mr. Liebeler. Was that a letter from Mrs. Paine to Marina or a letter from the Civil Liberties Union?