Mr. Liebeler. Please fix the time when you went to Los Angeles?

Mr. Paine. Last summer, 2 weeks in August or something. I was there for 3 days, the first, the middle of August.

I would guess it was about 2 years before that that I had been there. I could be off by a year both ways. I can't even remember whether he came—I think he probably interspersed his visit between mine.

Mr. Liebeler. Do you recall that he visited Irving on two different occasions, once in Christmas, 1962?

Mr. Paine. One was a Christmas party, that is right.

Mr. Liebeler. And once in the summer of 1961.

Mr. Paine. I don't remember '61. I do remember pictures now, we have pictures showing us outside so that was balmy weather.

Mr. Liebeler. So that in the period that you have been living in Texas you have gone to Los Angeles on two different occasions and visited your father there and he has been in Irving on two different occasions, is that correct?

Mr. Paine. That seems, I think, to be right.

Mr. Liebeler. Would you go on and tell us what you know about your father's political activities?