Mr. Liebeler. Mr. Welch was not there, was he?
Mr. Paine. No; he was not.
Representative Ford. Was this a movie in which he participated?
Mr. Paine. He was the speaker at a lectern in this movie.
Mr. Liebeler. Do you have any knowledge of the political attitudes or activities of your father, George Lyman Paine?
Mr. Paine. I have very little specific knowledge of what he does.
Mr. Liebeler. Would you tell us what you do know about your father's political activities?
Mr. Paine. I have seen my father rather rarely. Since I have been in Texas, I have seen him more frequently. I think I have been out there three times now in the last 5 years.
Mr. Liebeler. When you say out there—you mean Los Angeles?
Mr. Paine. Yes; I have seen him twice. He was out to Texas. I have been to Los Angeles twice, and he came at least once to Dallas.