Senator Cooper. I have to go and I would like to ask a few questions.
I ask these questions to get a certain background of his views which you have said he finally came to some fixed position which he would hold and would not move and there was no brooking of real argument on that position.
You said earlier in response to a question by counsel that he did not believe there was any possibility of any evolutionary progress in this country, at least upon this issue of economic change.
Mr. Paine. This he never said that specifically. But I would ask him what policy should we take or I was trying to find if he didn't have some avenue of following a policy in this country.
Senator Cooper. Did you direct questions to him which showed some evolution in our own economic ideas and theories which he either refused to accept——
Mr. Paine. Yes; I did. I mean I tried to show him how labor and management, first labor had a right, I was criticizing labor for the rigid position it is getting us into now——
Senator Cooper. He would not accept that idea of evolution?
Mr. Paine. I think he did not accept it; yes.
He didn't have patience with it.
Senator Cooper. Is that also a tenet of the Communist dogma, do you know?