Mr. Paine. I don't believe, I don't know whether you can say there is a single Communist dogma of that sort. I suppose there are some groups that feel that way and others don't.
Senator Cooper. Did he indicate any other way in which he thought that economic change might come about in the United States?
Mr. Paine. He did not indicate or reveal to me how he thought it would come about and I on several occasions felt by his, perceived from his attitude or felt impelled by his attitude to say that the values that I held dear were diminished in a situation of violence, to which he remained silent and I took it as disagreement. But I don't remember if he had said that.
Senator Cooper. He remained silent when you spoke about that?
Mr. Paine. When I said I was opposed to violence or said, why, when I said that he remained silent and I took it——
Senator Cooper. You took it that he disagreed in any way by your statement?
Mr. Paine. Well, just by the way he would sort of withdraw.
Senator Cooper. He did not agree with your position?
Mr. Paine. He did not agree; no.
Senator Cooper. That violence was unacceptable as a means of change?