Mr. Paine. We went down to the police and stayed there until about 8 or 9 o'clock. Then Marguerite came home with us and spent the night.
Mr. Dulles. You didn't see Lee Harvey at that time, did you?
Mr. Paine. They asked me and I declined to see him at that time. I changed my mind. When they immediately asked me, I declined. I did not know what he would ask me, so I did not see him.
Mr. Dulles. You did not see him?
Mr. Paine. No.
Mr. Dulles. Did your wife see him?
Mr. Paine. I think no one saw him. Marina went in the next morning hoping to see him.
Mr. Dulles. There were no conversations that took place that evening that are pertinent to our investigation so far as you know?
Mr. Paine. Quite soon I called the ACLU. There were reports, yes, I think at that time, that Friday night, Marguerite was saying he wasn't receiving counsel, and so I called the ACLU to see if there was anybody there checking to see if this was true, and apparently a delegation, this was Saturday morning, and apparently a delegation had been sent.
Mr. Dulles. But to your knowledge neither you nor your wife had any conversations with Marina or Robert that would throw any light on this apparent coolness?