Mr. Jenner. That would have been October 7?

Mrs. Paine. Thirteenth.

Senator Cooper. May I ask a question here?

Mr. McCloy. Senator Cooper has a question.

Mr. Jenner. Yes.

Senator Cooper. On the occasion when you drove with him, did you find it necessary to show him how to turn on the ignition?

Mrs. Paine. No; I did not.

Senator Cooper. How to take steps to start the car and put it in motion?

Mrs. Paine. No, indeed; he had started it before I came out or else he wouldn't have been in the driver's seat because I didn't want him to drive on the street. So he had the car ready to go; backed out with a considerable bump.

Mr. Jenner. He backed out of the driveway?