Mr. Kellerman. Per hour.
Mr. Specter. Yes.
Mr. Kellerman. Then, as we were in the opening between there and the city limits of Dallas, we could have gone 25 to 30.
Mr. Specter. What was the size of the crowd at that specific point?
Mr. Kellerman. Nothing in between then until we hit the outskirts of the city. Of course, then you got into a residential, a school, area where all the people were out on the curb line.
Mr. Specter. What was the speed when you reached that area?
Mr. Kellerman. Then we would reduce the speed down to 15 miles an hour.
Mr. Specter. What is your best estimate of the minimum speed traveled until you reached the downtown area?
Mr. Kellerman. We could have been going 25 to 30 at several times, sir.
Mr. Specter. What were the crowds like in the downtown area itself?