Mr. Kellerman. A lot of people.

Mr. Specter. What was the speed of the motorcade when you came into the downtown area?

Mr. Kellerman. It would be reduced down to 10 to 15 miles an hour, sir.

Mr. Specter. Were there any unusual occurrences en route from Love Field until, say, you got to the downtown area of Dallas, Tex.?

Mr. Kellerman. As we were on the outskirts of this town and apparently reaching a crowded area there were a group of youngsters on the right side of the car curb-line-wise, that had a large sign, oh, perhaps the width of the two windows there, that said, "Please, Mr. President, stop and shake our hands," and he saw this and he called to the driver and said, "Stop," he said, "call these people over and I will shake their hands," which we did. The entire motorcade stopped. I got out of the car and stood alongside of it while these people were right up on me. The agents who were on the followup car, all around it. And then after a few seconds he said, "All right; let's travel on."

Mr. Specter. You say the agents in the followup car moved up at the stopping?

Mr. Kellerman. Always, sir.

Mr. Specter. Specifically, what did they do on that occasion?

Mr. Kellerman. They crowded right in between the President, the car, and the people.

Mr. Specter. Did the President actually leave the car?