Mr. Kellerman. No; I haven't.

Mr. Specter. What was the approximate width of Elm Street in lanes of travel, if you recall?

Mr. Kellerman. It is at least three lanes, sir.

Mr. Specter. And describe the terrain, whether it was smooth, level or in what way you went as you went down Elm Street.

Mr. Kellerman. As we went down Elm Street, there was a smooth road and the terrain on each side was a grassy plotted area, a very cleared-off area, visibility tremendous.

Mr. Specter. And describe the composure of the crowds at that time.

Mr. Kellerman. As we turned north on to Houston Street, this was primarily the end of the crowd in Dallas, Tex.; in the downtown section, there were still a few on the sidewalk until we got to Elm Street. As we turned in a northerly direction to Elm Street, which would be on our left, then the crowds just diminished. They were spotty, standing on the grassy plot. They were not on the side of the street. In fact, there were just a matter of a handful, that was all, and we were through it.

Mr. Specter. Do you know what time it was when you got to the intersection of Houston and Elm on November 22?

Mr. Kellerman. Not at Houston and Elm; no. No; I don't.

Mr. Specter. What was the speed of the motorcade, Mr. Kellerman, as you were proceeding down Main Street at about the time you turned right onto Houston?